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Red Frog Rufen
Red Frog Freight
Red-Frog
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Posted - 2012.12.15 18:51:00 -
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Thank you very much.
This is a reminder to everyone, not just our customer, to properly collaterise your contracts.
In Red Frog Freight, we always try our best to reject those 0 collateral contracts as fast as we can, but unfortunatly, we do sleep sometime.
We run a background check on people, but it can only go so far.
oh, BTW, Test, Goons, anyone with a clean record of ganking can join Red Frog! As long as you meet our minimum requirement.
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Red Frog Rufen
Red Frog Freight
Red-Frog
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Posted - 2012.12.18 11:57:00 -
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Piugattuk wrote:Glad to know Red Frog is completing contracts worth more then collateral  good honest business folk.
we usually do, there's a lot of honest people in Red Frog, that see in the long term !
Not everyone is a thief like the OP.
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Red Frog Rufen
Red Frog Freight
Red-Frog
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Posted - 2012.12.19 11:57:00 -
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I was requested a couple of time to post this, so just to make sure everyone he might enter in contact with knows who they are dealing with.
he's 2 main characters are
Cpt Bunny and Francois Miron .
Be safe with them around your corp. |
Red Frog Rufen
Red Frog Freight
Red-Frog
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Posted - 2012.12.24 14:58:00 -
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Freighdee Katt wrote:Piugattuk wrote:Glad to know Red Frog is completing contracts worth more then collateral good honest business folk. It's more a question of risk for the pilot than honesty. Regardless of how "honest" you think you are, I'm not sure why you would even accept a 30B cargo, since the ISK/jump is paid at a fixed rate, and it's unlikely you're going to make enough to pay for the freighter that you're sure to lose when you get ganked. The 1B collateral limit is there to limit the exposure of haulers, not to protect customers. And as a professional hauler, I'd think you have enough sense to pass on hauling anything with a value high enough to turn you into a sweet sweet pinata of ganktastic goodness. "Honest" is completing a 0 collateral contract that has a 1B cargo inside. But putting 30B worth of anything in your freighter and undocking . . . well, there are other words for that.
we reject those 0 collateral usually.
as for the over collateral, i'd say 99% of our pilot will contact a director and manage to deliver it nonetheless. so yeah, risk is a factor, but you can't know what's inside before accepting, so you're left with 2 choice, make the honest move and deliver it with the help of the direction, or fail it and get booted.
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Red Frog Rufen
Red Frog Freight
Red-Frog
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Posted - 2012.12.24 23:51:00 -
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Kuyomi wrote:Red Frog Rufen wrote:
we reject those 0 collateral usually.
as for the over collateral, i'd say 99% of our pilot will contact a director and manage to deliver it nonetheless. so yeah, risk is a factor, but you can't know what's inside before accepting, so you're left with 2 choice, make the honest move and deliver it with the help of the direction, or fail it and get booted.
What do you do with a 1b collateral 30b value contract, IE heavy undercollateralization? To me, failing it seems like the only safe option; putting such a package in a freigher is madness
It depend on a lot of factor, but usually we involve a blue frog pilot for that. There are ways to move such value which I wont discuss here.
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Red Frog Rufen
Red Frog Freight
Red-Frog
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Posted - 2012.12.28 05:14:00 -
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Freighdee Katt wrote:Red Frog Rufen wrote:It depend on a lot of factor, but usually we involve a blue frog pilot for that. There are ways to move such value which I wont discuss here. I thought it was now possible to peek into plastic wrap prior to contract acceptance. I'm not sure exactly when that happened, but I believe it flew by in some patch notes in recent releases. I also think that I have inadvertently "discovered" this feature in game, while contracting stuff back and forth between alts. I could be wrong though. It's up to you all of course, but it sounds like you're being unduly generous to customers by going out of your way to make Blue Frog hauls at Red Frog rates on these undercollateralized contracts (assuming Blue Frog rates are actually higher). If you're delivering them on the original Red Frog contract but making a Blue Frog run behind the scenes, then you're kind of inviting customers to play dumb and take advantage of you (especially since this "accomodation" is now advertised in this thread). Even if the contract was already accepted, it seems like a better intervention would be to just contract the items back to the customer and send a polite mail inviting them to submit it to Blue Frog instead.
you can't peek at the content of a courier contract before accepting it.
When we send the contract to blue frog, we ask the customer to pay the difference, of course!
sending the item back means you need to fail the contract, and we hate failed contract. :) |
Red Frog Rufen
Red Frog Freight
Red-Frog
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Posted - 2012.12.28 05:14:00 -
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Dimitryy wrote:I Dont Understand Why OP To Capitalize Every Other word In His Post. It makes Things Really hard to Read and Adds an un-natural Emphesis To his Words.
it's probably related to him being.. well.. you know.
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